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Ducks and Drakes, 3

During the seventies when I was engaged or “infected” by K’s teachings I began to integrate what I had learned as a therapist in training, all those readings of a different kind of masters and the writings of K. I spent an inordinate amount of time working on an extended essay in which I attempted to integrate psychotherapeutic learnings with that of K’s teachings. It never came to fruition. Essentially K had written  that psychotherapy is a method and inherent in a method is that someone or something is doing something to another. By applying a method you turn the other into an object, like a saw applied to wood. Someone is used or a victim of an application of a thought process or a method. For K this meant that psychotherapy, I gathered and assumed, really is not an engagement of the other but the use of a theory or method in the therapist’s mind being used on another. There is much truth to that; take a look at the diagnostic manual (DSM IV) used by psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers for within its pages are a plethora of definitions of mental behaviors, dysfunctions or diseases as well as many diagnostic “trees” splayed out with all their contingencies, all further adumbrated by examples and instances of this or that malady. So the therapist goes into his office with this armamentarium within himself. And, in effect, if I follow K correctly, the client, the person disappears or is reified, made much of a thing.

I sought to find a way in which choiceless awareness (that is a stunning concept that took me years to grasp) of  learning to see , and all that entails, to see clearly what is, essential concepts for K, could be brought into treatment. I had read a book in which Zen had been used but it suffered from too much theory in my eyes. In any case it was a conflictual experience for me, but I did try. What I observed about this wreckage was that I needed to read K for what he could give me, rather than  what I could extract from his teachings.Maybe they could not be applied as a rule or to others, but only as a self-discovery. Could be?

In the back of my mind was that therapy was method and I wish it wasn’t. I wish I could use what I had learned from K in some fashion and in some way in treatment. I wanted to integrate his teachings within myself. As I look back it did sneak in, my suggesting him to certain clients, my using words such as conditioning and deconditioning so that clients could understand what I was trying to achieve in their treatment. Here K might step in and go for half an hour about what I was doing was in many ways conflictual, sorrowful in the end, and a waste of time. I stick my tongue out at him. We can only do our best and at times I felt he was infatuated with intellect rather than with feelings. I associate to how it was with Freudians many decades ago. If you disagreed with them, especially if you were in supervision, you were labeled as resistive, defended, having oedipal issues with father Freud, suffering from this or that neurosis. A hermetically sealed trap, it was reductive and you could not escape. In Dan Wakefield’s wonderful New York in the Fifties he describes in detail his own treatment with a freudian, for this was the high time of psychoanalysis, and how ultimately he felt it had caused him inordinate pain; in one instance one could describe one psychoanalyst as cruelly indifferent to his anguish. In like fashion, K can be used to self-mortify the very person he chooses to teach. For his is also a worldview, of a kind, a unique way of seeing or thinking, but a worldview nevertheless, as I define it, as I see it, as I feel about it. Atmoments I did see him as a kind of freakof nature.

I wonder if others such as myself initially begin to imitate K, trying to be like him — a foolish and weary escapade, of course, but there were hints of that, as if trying to be like the master, but I soon relinquished this “craving” and chose to select from the buffet what I could eat without indigestion. indeed, K’s works have to be ingested, not sampled or tasted. He is not a boutique spiritual thinker, this is no Rachael Zoe, a stylist for the spiritual dilettantes. I wonder if the disciples of Jesus weakened their own sense of self and resolve as they latently tried to manifest the master’s internal and very special characteristics. If I can out mendicant the mendicant, might I not become better than he. Ah, competition, envy and ambition, and what a religious/spiritual racket it is.

At this time period Krishnamurti died in 1986 and I wrote a short story and a very short essay, both melancholic and depressed, about  the impact of K’s death. As I reread them now they are not worthy of being included here for they smack of the  state of imbroglio I was experiencing at the moment and at the struggle I was going through. I have surpassed all that and they are reminders of my life in which angst ruled as I dreaded on a daily basis my daily indoctrinal work as a teacher. I resented and abhorred the very occupation for it was all drill and conditioning and preparing the next generation of dimwits to vote for the Tea Party. In my book, This Mobius Strip of Ifs, I clearly set forth my displeasure in three essays which describe my feelings and thoughts about teaching in America, or what Paul Goodman called “growing up absurd.” I was part and parcel of the Eisenhower expectorate of the Fifties.

In the mid seventies I was reading the works of a Freudian, a unique psychoanalyst at that, Robert Langs. As I began to take in his teachings which were very complex but quite telling, like K, he was one of a kind, and a school grew up around his teachings. At the same time I continued this and that book of K which struck my fancy. The Flight of the Eagle, Think on These Things, The Awakening of Intelligence were  read in that order and then followed, I believe, by The First Freedom, You Are the World and a few others in addition to whatever books I could read by friends of his as he grew up under the hovering wings of the Theosophists, and Anna Besant who he called “mother.” Years after he would reject all this and set out on his own as a thinker. Intrigued by the boy “messiah,” any details I could garner I thought might help me lasso or corral this most unusual thinker — to no avail. However, what I learned about him was delicious gossip.

He was spotted on an Indian beach by Charles Leadbetter who was a Theosophist and rumors were that he was something of a pedophile, although that hasn’t been determined. In any case he experienced the young Krishnamurti as having an unusual aura about him and reported back to Besant about what he had observed. Shortly after, he was somehow finagled, weaned, absconded with,  whathaveyou into her home and she became his adoptive parent, taking the young Krishana and his adored younger brother to England. He was separated from his father, his mother having died previously. What I learned was that he was dressed by the finest tailors in London, sent to school where he was a nondescript student, reared in this peculiar environment which smacked of esoterica, illusions, incantations and astral projection in which one has the capacity to leave the body and soar eleswhere — combine all this together and it makes for fascinating reading, a touch of Madame Blavatasky who had studied with the lamas in Tibet and Gurdjieff, the perennial wisdom, some salt, some pepper and you have an odd goulash for a young boy to be thrown into. I feel he was imperialistically nabbed as an Indian boy to serve the fantasies of mother Besant. In Yiddish this would aptly be described as meshuge or crazy.

I learned he was an English dandy, foppishly loved new clothes, enjoyed racing cars and quite mechanical with them, and before his experience in Ojai which changed him forever, one would not expect this coming messiah as amounting to much. According to Anna Besant and the Theosophists, his coming had been predicted and in Pupul Jayakar’s Krishnamurti A Biography she goes into exquisite detail about “The Young Krishnamurti 1895-1946,” with such chapter headings as “In Space One Is Born and Unto Space One is Born,” and “The Personality of J. Krishnamurti Has been Swallowed Up in the Flames.” It makes for good reading, delicious in its absurdity. The true story goes that Samuel Goldwyn offered a role as the Buddha in a new film he was producing which K rejected. He was an exceedingly good-looking young man and the press made much about this messiah who was in preparation to be the new world teacher, if I recall that lingo. In short he was coddled and pampered and infused with all kinds of esoteric junk, partial truths to my eyes. However, I cut him a lot of slack, given that environment, a stolen child serving adult and bizarre interests, a crypto-pedophile lurking about and who was his teacher and an impending old woman who had an interesting philosophical career herself in the arcane sciences of the east. In short this all happened and you can’t make it up. K was brewed like a good cup of English tea in this melange.

Ducks and Drakes Continued

NOTE TO THE READER: in the following severabl blogs, all called Ducks and Drakes, I am giving you the early beginnings of a new memoir, if you will. I will not blog for awhile, but if I do it will be to continue with Ducks and Drakes With Krishnaji. I look forward to your comments.

It was in the seventies and into the mid eighties that I read Krishnamurti’s works — The Awakening of Intelligence, a thick book of dialogues he had in Saanen, Switzerland in the late sixties; You are the World, and others. I read a dense biography of him by one of his disciples who he knew for over 40 years. I reread it once again to get the flavor of what it was to hang around the master, if you will. In fact, one of my 10th grade honor classes gifted me with that book and the class signed it for me to my delight; clearly I was sharing what I knew about K to whomever would ever listen, captive audience or not. Only recently a student now in his forties wrote me to say, in part, that having heard about K in my class he got up and went to Manhattan to hear him speak and called the event “amazing.”

What psychologically and emotionally attracted me to K, as I reflect, was his total questioning of authority which appealed to me deeply as I was a very controlled young boy growing up, chocked full of inhibitions, dos and donts. So he whet my need to question society, to be subversive, to be free. You might say he appealed to my split as a passive-aggressive personality, yin and yang. Subversiveness was kind of built-in, like shelving. I read him for that, in part, and he made an indelbile case against schools and societal institutions which conditioned and indoctrinated. As the director of an alternative high school, an  outgrowth of the sixties’ ferment, he appealed to my need to cut a different path Slowly I began to see and to incorporate what I did see into my germ plasm. Thematic words took hold from his books — indoctrination, conditioning, deconditioning, questioning authority, and choiceless awareness, to see in an non-optical  way, to challenge, to question. One favorite axiom of his was that society was essentially corrupt, all societies. Well, now, reader, take a look about you — Perry, Bachmann, Palin, Obama, Hannity, Krauthammer, Ingraham, Beck, Limbaugh, Biden, Rove, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, the good, the bad and the ugly were all complicit in being corrupt. The clarion call K gave me was that essentially it was up to each individual to be a stranger in a strange land, to upset the internal applecart. I relished in his insight that all reforms and reformers were essentially incomplete and doomed to failure, consequently a waste of effort. That revolution was required within each of us. I relished the idea that causes, all causes, even to the Girl Scouts tainted one because inherent in them was a split, a division, between the observer and the observed. Causes slaughtered the individual. All in all, he made me think.

Alas, he was the only “writer” I vociferously argued with. As I reminisce I realize he was causing me to molt, to shed hidebound ideas I was pretty definite about, because I was and am a heavily defended personality. As I struggled with his thinking process, his almost other worldly thought processes which shook me up, I got angry with him, looked especially for faults in his seemingly perfect hide, wanted to find out that he had screwed twenty-two disciples over the years, anything that would dethrone him in my mind, to demolish his worth, to destroy his seemingly inpenetrable self-poise. I dreaded becoming a disciple which completely sucks, think of Jesus’ dirty dozen.  God, wasn’t he imperfect? God, was he human? All this more of a commentary on my own biases, thinking processes, hangups and all the rest that makes up anyone’s personality.In short, for me to come to his ideas I felt in some emotionally illogical way that I had to psychological demean him. And that deserves three sessions with any good shrink. Well, I spent some wasted moments on that until I read more and more, and I persevered more and more until I reached a point that I became accepting of his ideas without attacking them, although I did question and continue to question his thoughts. K can be a brisk shower in a cool morning.

At this point a slight digression, but related one. I read Jacques Barzun’s From Dawn to Decadence, 500 Years of Western Cultural Life 1500 to the Present published in 2000. Barzun is 100 years old or more as of this date. Here is a major literary critic and writer who in 878 pages writes about Freud and a few other Jews but in the index as well in the entire book — see the title again — he never mentions nor does he discuss the Holocaust. Four pages on HItler, nothing on National Socialism, about 31 pages on Napoleon. Barzun can argue that he is adhering to the title of his effort, but what “Decadence”? For a major historian to leave out the Holocaust is puzzling, and damning in a book of this kind. Similarly, although K wrote and spoke about society and its injustices, about wars, and the relationships between peoples, of people and their religions which are divisive, conflict-causers, I often wondered if he was not too intellectually ethereal to speak about the Holocaust. Nowhere can I find words about that species-devastating event in his works. The Krishnamurti Foundation, Kinfonet on the web, has hundreds of tapes, his collected works, a slew of books on him and by him. He is most likely the most recorded spiritual teacher in history, yet I hear a deafening silence. If he felt he was above all that, or if he felt he had discussed that within the boundaries of his total gestalt as a spiritual teacher, I find it a remarkable lapse. So he was in this world and out of it. K needed a job, 9 to 5, some difficult brats for children, and a surly wife, a nagging mortgage to meet and then I would have liked to hear from him. A hermit, as he once wrote somewhere, is in relationship to his society; that is, if I understand his thought, the more the hermit rejects society the more he is in reaction to it and thus is in relationship to it. That makes sense to me. He doth protest too much. Yet, K himself, says nothing about the Holocaust. I have not read enough of where he was during the war years, the forties, but I do know he was restricted from traveling when he was in the America; however, he is silent on the subject.

K died in 1986 so he was familiar with all that had been written about the Holocaust; he read newspapers, magazines, detective novels and made a point in his talks that he came upon his learnings/insights/observations from seeing what is. Let me clarify. What I think he means is that we deal with reality, each individual, from moment to moment, that we need to “die” to thought, memory, the dead hand of the past if we are to understand or see what is before us; books, learnings, the whole rigamorole serve only to defeat us. Mistakenly we think that knowledge will help us to see, perhaps a bit, but knowledge did not delay the Holocaust nor all the books in libraries across the world which declared war a dead-end, prevail against two world wars in the Twentieth Century. It explains why K was not impressed with books for they were frozen thoughts. I remember when I first understood that and how it challenged even the book of his I was reading; what did he want to do with his “knowledge”? or tomorrow’s lesson in class. What was unsettling for me was that if I accepted some of his ideas which I did feel were truths of a kind, great understandings to my eyes, everything I did on the morrow was useless. It was an odd and uncomfortable realization which I struggled with for years, trying to incorporate his learnings into my own sensibilities at a rate and degree I could metabolize them. Perhaps the hard thing about K is the metabolizing of what he has taught, his testimonies if you will. I struggle still with that, but I’ve improved.

Ducks and Drakes with Krishnaji

In any case it’s a working title for my next book which will be on the spiritual teacher, Krishnamurti, sometimes called K, or with the honorific used in India, Krishnaji. While doing my mandatory one hour peripatetic lap walk in a local gym, in the inevitable battle to lose weight and to keep my other carotid artery from becoming plaque-ridden, I think about K. Presently I am reading Krishnamurti’s Notebook which is a spirtitual diary that comes with the adviso that K was not on drugs when he wrote this, and I believe that to be so, for he was too much the ascetic, a vegan. watched his body, and  he was taken care of by others for much (coddled, then pampered) if not all of his life since he was declared a messiah, if you will, in his early life by Anna Besant and the Theosophists. More on that later. K  never had a 9 to 5 job in his life, never had an argument with a boss, never was fired; he was out and apart from his society and others made it work for him. If they were not disciples, they were something close to that. For a while I resented that, although I worked that through, for what he has to say, his testimony, as someone said, is more than worth intense scrutiny for what it offers. If I am swine, at least let me take a pearl back to the sty — might give some class to the joint.

Gossip is rife about him. He may or may not have had an affair; he deserved at least one shtupp in his life. He was said to have the capacity to heal, but he put that aside for his own reasons. We do know in the twenties in a town north of Los Angeles, Ojai, he had an intense spiritual awakening which lasted for days and weakened him. In the Notebook and elsewhere this continued in one way or another all his life, he was almost 90 when he died. He practiced Kundulini yoga which is supposed to have been an intense variant and I do believe he had a lifelong unique experience with that. I believe in some way his brain “exploded,” and what I mean is that somehow he was able to see much deeper than the rest of others. In fact, his confidants sometimes suggested that he was a freak which he sometimes said that may very well be true. Given his teachings, I felt at times that he was beyond grasp because he was just different, remarkably so.

Ducks and drakes is not a game nor a sport, but something that early man most likely engaged in. Simply stated, one is by a lake or pond, settled waters. A flat stone (think David’s sling) is selected from the shore and cast sideways across the surface waters. One  observes how many times it hits the water and by friction or physics unknown to common man skips again and so on. The idea is to see how many surface hits one can get the missile to make before it submerges. A natural effort, a simple effortless exercise — stone, throw, sight and it is all over. What is to be gained?  I will not hazard a guess. Metaphorically it means something else for me as I observed for more than three decades reading  K’s work, often occasionally, not consistently, mind you; but I do return to his wisdom under certain anxiety states to see if he has something to say to me. For the purposes of this “memoir” ducks and drakes represemts my off and on again distant relationship with an intriguing presence; if he is to be accused of selling anything to me, it is not philosophy, or a way-to, it is not a Dr. Phil. Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer product of Emersonsian-tainted bromides. K offers awareness, not his, but yours.

So I am the duck and the drake. This reminiscence is an effort to record the distant relationship with him. In 1975 I decided to enroll in the school of social welfare at Stony Brook University at the eastern end of Long Island. It was about an hour or so away from my home in Glendale, Queens. At 35 I was in a second marriage with one child. After work at a high school on exit 51 in Suffolk County it was not too far away a commute to the university. I went at night. And then a long trek back through Suffolk and Nassau counties into Queens. I did that for three years. When you are young, it doesn’t get to you, you’re not even aware of it. In  a course called “How Humans Change,” the professor recommended Krishnamurti’s The Flight of the Eagle. I do dimly recall hearing a record of K in class with that often parodied sing song chant of the Indian speaking English, you know, Sam Jaffe doing his Gunga Din bit. So I entered the book and realized by the end of page two that it was the equivalent of reading Plato at 18 and being dumbstruck by the idea or ideas being explained or having entered Buber’s I and Thou and being lost immediately, for if you don’t get his definition of I and Thou in the first pages you might as well give up. Immediately I sensed that K had to be read slowly and with care, that yellow marker readily in hand. The sonofabitch made me work!

Intensely practical, written in that lucid style of his, plain, matter-of-fact, as if steel wire being slowly, deliberately spun about a coil, I realized it was philosophical in ways I was not used to. It did not present a theory or a personal point of view, let us say of Spinoza or Marx. It was beyond that. Inherent in the book as I recall it, I, the reader, was being asked in so many words to participate in the colloquy, for it was not so much what K was making clear or adumbrating, as the metaphor of being escorted through Kane’s castle and the good citizen stepping before you to open each door as you went through that castle maze. By the way, implicit in all this was not that you were entering a labyrinth nor a maze. You were entering you. It was a book about awareness. I know that I can quote passages or that I can read him again so as to be clearer but it would be a cheat. I want to share what has stayed in me without resorting to books. Facts or data I need to share with you about his personal life I may look up or I may not. I prefer to write about him as if I were speaking of a friend I have known casually over the years. There is no need for research on that, is there?

One major idea in that book was the observer was the observed; that took some while to settle in my mind. K has always argued that division creates conflict, that in negation we come upon that which is whole. I struggled to understand this idea and others in the book.  I now see the truth in his observation that we are that which we see or look at; or we project upon others and situations all that we are so we are blinded by what we see. Elsewhere he comments that we should look as if for the very first time, and I found that valuable when I went to practice as a psychotherapist, to see the client, the person, from moment to moment, with fresh eyes free of judgment and personal coloration. From insight to insight the book was strewn with tight-fisted insights about mind and relationships, all new to my western mind. I knew that I had read and grasped and struggled with something unique and I tried to understand what I did not understand by searching out other books of his. I came across Think on These Things which is a popular book of his and much more accessible than The Flight of the Eagle. Here in transcribed dialogues he speaks with young people in schools throughout India discussing all kinds of ideas and answering questions from students.  I began to grasp some of his ideas and found them appealing. I now wooed him.

More in another blog.

Krishnamurti, Krishnaji or K

Since 1975 I have been reading the works of Krishnamurti, spiritual teacher and remarkable human being. Often we are surrounded by rather unusual people in our culture or the cultures of other peoples who we know nothing about. And then they die, and we die. When you read history, you muse about the life of Spinoza, for example, who did his creative work and passed on. Often unknown to the world at large, these brilliant  isolates are known to a few, most likely a friend or family, and yet a hundred years later they have shaken the world with their ideas. Such was Krishnamurti. His am influence will grow ever more. Only now are colleges beginning to introduce his works into their curriculum, for he is hard to define, corral or explicate, as most unique people are. I have learned a great deal from him over the years; he has opened my eyes a little bit more than they would have been. At the tip of my tongue are some of his insights, all societies are essentially corrupt, the observer is the observed (think on that one for an hour!), look as if it were for the first time (good for therapists and better still for family and relationships), and the word is not the thing itself.

After his death in 1986 the Krishnamurti Foundation continued to produce a plethora of materials, especially his recorded talks and writings; they are endless. The books that I have found quite telling are Think on These Things, The Flight of the Eagle and The Awakening of Intelligence. Read these three in this order and you either quit on him or have your pistons explode. His teachings have saturated who I am so that the plaque forming in my arteries have the letter K on them, delightfully insidious. When I am stressed or experience angst or the fear of fear or the fear of death, I return to his writings. A disciple of his, a misnomer, for he did not collect disciples about himself, wrote a biography of him which was given to me in the 1980s by a class that knew my fondness for K. They inscribed their feelings about me on the inside book covers which is interesting to read 25 years later. However, I am rereading the book once again, a chapter a night, for one has to go slowly with K. I will provide one quotation which I underlined last night and has motivated me to write this blog. Tell me what you think:

Krisnaji asked: If you knew that you were about to die, what would you do? Can you live one hour completely — live one day — one hour — as you were going to die the next hour? But if you die so that you are living fully in this hour, there is enormous vitality, tremendous attention to everything. You look at the spring of life, the tear, you feel the earth, the quality of the tree. You feel the love that has no continuity and no object. Then you will find in that attention, that the ‘me’ is not. It is then, that the mind, being empty, can renew itself.”

Let me assure you that this is mild K, for he can lacerate your mental structure, your sense of being through relentless and laser-like questioning that has no other purpose than to make you see. He is not a Western philosopher as we know it. He goes beyond Socrates in several aspects, for he pushes us to see what is, in the moment, right now, to observe our minds at work, how we go about thinking, how we project upon the world all our internal ills. It is much more, to my eyes, than merely examining one’s own self. And that is why, in some instances, this culture and others find it hard to digest what he is dealing with. I still struggle with seeing. In any case I have returned to him periodically for he provides not solace but a kind of reaffirmation of questioning as a way to get at core issues, which is to my liking. Answers are given on tablets and handed down to slaves. What if the decalogue was composed of ten or more questions? What larks, Pip, what larks!

As I go about aging, as I go about the slow dance to non-existence, I will not waste my time seeing meaning in what I have been, done, or accomplished. really irrelevant. I am more concerned in living the moments I have each and every day not in the pursuit of happiness, or nirvana, or moaning mantras which are all ridiculous. I seek no respite, no relief, no pleasure, nor transcendental aims. Krishnamurti seems to me to be about intellect, the awakening of intelligence, and we all know how tiring that can be; but he is suggesting that we maintain an ongoing internal dialoguing with ourselves; that we listen on levels that are almost at the level of quantum physics; that we dare not live the kind of life he lived, for he detests models,  icons and disciples. He solely engages us to make our way in the world free of all conditioning, the pollution we face daily with the media and others about us; that we march not only to the sound of a different drummer, but that indeed, we become the drummer and drum, the music, the rhythm and the harmony (the observer is the observed). What I admire about this teacher is his diamond-hard yet compassionate injunction to be in the world, or as he said in the title of one book, you are the world.

The fact that such a man has lived in my time gives me some hope that humanity may yet have something going for it. He was no god, he was mortal, and for me that carries greater weight than any god created by man. Luckily for K, in any other century he probably would have been turned into a god.

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